Зачем ровнять друг к другу две половинки целого - хоть убей не понимаю.
НИКОМУ НЕ НУЖНА.
А Прохоров чего не женится?
Hearing someone tell me that is very heartfelt for me because it makes me feel like I changed someone's life in a good way.
Единственное, конечно, что хотелось бы поменять - это отношение некоторых индивидов к девушкам, как к каким-то бездушным носителям сисек, пардон за мой французский. Может, я смотрю на жизнь с темной точки зрения.
I don't know if it's right that women should be treated as equals in the first place. I don't think men and women are equal, not really. Trying to make them equal is a disservice to the potential of the human race. But 'respecting' and 'treating as equal' are two different things. Anyway, I don't think women belong in the government or should interfere in or influence political matters. These are institutions, policies, and systems that were created by men for a man's agenda. And there's not anything wrong with that, as long as women have the wisdom to see it for the silliness that it is. There are more important things for women to concern themselves with. But women need to become spiritually strong enough to withstand the dominion of men and to counter it, not with force but with truth. The man's world has become one of deception and facade, and that world needs to be diminished. But treating women 'as equals' is a misguided attempt at a solution.
Как с равными? ну и вперед! Призыв - для всех, без разницы, один ребенок или два (топай, мамочка, в армию иль отмазывайся, как можешь)
Паши как мужчина, днем и ночью. ВЕдь ты больше не слабое существо (равенство!)
И отношение соотвественное...какое там - дверь открывать....пропускать вперед...Обойдешься! В равном мире все одинаковые! И пенсия, кстати, тоже на энное количество лет дальше...равенство!
women want equality
men want superiority.... this is the problem
The change I would like to see? Sweeping linguistic change. Especially in Western languages, we are constantly referring to people's sex when it is simply not relevant to most situations. We need to remove gender from everyday speech. Until we stop automatically splitting people into different groups based on arbitrary physiological differences, we will never have a society that values the individual first.
We also need to stop tolerating intolerance. It should not be shocking for someone to hear that calling a woman a "fugly slut" is sexist. Need to hear the rant?
Here it is.
Подарить любимой то, в чём нуждаюсь сам. Свободу. Верить в неё и любить. Не лгать. И быть верным до конца вечности, верным себе, и принадлежать ей. Быть. Стремиться к совершенству и успеху, чтобы радовать её и баловать. Уберечь.
oh, i went off topic. but also! just the difference in job salaries between women and men show the unequal treatments between them. i mean, what, its like a 30000 difference of the lifetime? something like that. and DON't even get me started on the freakin backwards nations that punish women for being raped or abused, or they sew up their genitalias or are expected to completely obey/ be a slave to their husbands, sons, dads, brothers, anyone with a dick. even confucious said women should just obey the male figures, be a pleasant trophy wife and all that, you know?
and then, then, theres just the cultural standards of women too. like with keeping yourself pure and looking good etc etc, but i dont really feel like going into it. so thats my response, sorry for the slight feminism, i really dont mean to be like this.
I don't think when women are in charge, that they would treat men as equals either.
I would like less Kim Kardashians, more Marie Curies
Less women in nightclubs, more playing sports.
Less waitresses and more chefs.
Less working retail and more in business.
Less teachers and more professors.
Less pre-med wannabe doctors and more engineers.
Cause face it. If all you want to do is spend money and party
without taking on more responsibility, you're freeloading off
the hardworking women who earn and deserve better treatment.
Women don't want to be equal, they want to be better. They want to have their womanly time of the month, and not have to take sick leave, they want to have the same wages as men, but not pay for dinner. They want a work place that accommodates them and anything that (does or might) upset them.
Or we can put it an a little thing I heard from someone older, about a very specific woman.
"She wanted to find herself, and I was alright with that. The problem I had was that she wanted to be paid to find herself.
I'll leave that for the opinions that have left impressions upon me, I'm sure I'll get hate mail about it.
Still this is a nice subject to lead into what I came her to talk about today.
Кто задаёт такие умные вопросы?))
Я два раза работала в охране-получала копейки(поэтому уходила),
для хорошей зарплаты нужна лицензия и устроится в нормальную охранную контору-а лицензия-это не мед.книжка,там взятка за взяткой,той зимой хотела устроится-начальник-директор предложил мне пройти всё это бесплатно "за его счёт",но я заболела гриппом,а он меня тогда хотел кинуть на самые стрёмные обьекты-он мне сказал ,что я болезненная(в чём то это так))мол мороза не выдержу-да пошёл он!!!У меня три проблемы со здоровьем
2)Немотивированная агрессия(или мотивированная))(могу просто до..баться до быка и бить его головой об асфальт ,но только до первой крови,я боюсь крови,итд..могу за дело провинившегося но более легко..итд...(психиатр сказал-что я здорова-я,не уверенна..)
3)щитовидкаСейчас пройдёт аллергия ,пойду к врачу с анализами-она обещала помочь!
А сейчас я спокойна-дома висит груша+
В одной фразе - жизнь и погибель, в одном поступке - свобода и рабство.
I could change the the fact that my significant does not exist, but then I would have one, so I wouldn't need to go and call such a person into existence in the first place.
Or is that a different paradox?
А быть объектом сексуальных вожделений не так уже и плохо)))) Льстит самолюбию...
Нужно уметь этим пользоваться и все.
I do not have a significant other, so it's pretty hard to imagine which idiosyncrasies I'd want to change. Um, that said... sometimes those idiosyncrasies are the kindof... why you love them, or love them in spite of them, or "That is the most annoying laugh in the world but by-god I love that man" them so... maybe nothing?
Also - my mother's advice [as always, very pragmatic] is to never EVER go into a relationship intending to change someone. Okay, it's true. People DO change, they grow more alike or more distant, and they influence one another in pretty substantial ways, but... "You're perfect, but..." is a bad bad plan. It's stupid and can lead to resentment, or frustration, or a number of other relationship-killing emotions so... "You're perfect." And then shut the fuck up. He's perfect enough for now.
А что ксается пусть и часто встречающихся, но все же лишь отдельных представительниц "слабого пола", заведомо считающих себя самыми красивыми, умными и вообще самыми главными в радиусе неопределенно большого количества километров, - то пусть уж лучше они реализуют большую часть своей, впрочем, неуемной энергии дома, заставляя детей ежедневно учить уроки, кушать и одевать то, что нужно, а мужей - тратить деньги на те вещи, которые нужно.
Это, поверьте, гораздо лучше, чем если такие вот стервозно-творческие личности начинают делать карьеру и подчинять своим амбициям количество людей, все больше и больше превышающее количество членов их собственных семей.
С женщинами как с равными , может обращатся идиот или пидор
Но не смогли заставить их рожать детей.
Теперь детей рожают другие женщины.
Хочу чтобы все женщины были равными.
Да здравствует день равенства женщин!
День равенства женщин
Как вы думаете, с женщинами обращаются как с равными? Что бы вы хотели изменить сегодня?
По закону, в цивилизованных странах - да. К сожалению, многие женщины сами поддерживают патриархат. Это видно из многочисленных ответов здесь, особенно русскоязычных пользователей. Прям целая толпа шовинистических свиней и патриархальных клуш собралась, вот так мерзость! Не хватает только фриков, мечтающих о БП, чтобы вместе с техническими достижениями челочечества исчезли также и достижения эмансипации и мы снова погрузились бы в каменный век.
Единственое, что мешает равноправию сегодня - это цепляние самих женщин за патриархат. Давно бы уже пора бросить эти рабские манеры.
Одни мужчины - да, обращаются как с равными, другие - нет.
Все таки я не феминистка, считаю, что все таки не стоит как с равными общаться, а то получится - один пол, и собственно слово женщина и мужчина потеряют свои значения как минимум!
Absolutely not. In the end, I do not crave perfection. I can't think of anyone I know who does. We crave something else entirely. It doesn't matter if it is comfort or excitement; it isn't perfection. We need differences even if that means disagreements. We need things we love and things we hate. It is what makes the person you are with whole.
I don't think this is an appropriate venue for me to be talking about your mother in this way. Although I'd have her shave more. And wear deodorant. And get that syphilis treated.
But beyond that, it's too personal to talk about.
You have to be confident in your life. You've got one life, and you should see it in the way that comforts you. No one has the right to make you feel afraid, to make you worry. You want to know the truth? You're exactly fine just the way you are! And nothing can possibly change that, so don't worry about it. No really, YOU'RE FINE.
And I think that goes for everyone. And in that way, we're all equal; we all have the right to self-confidence. And we're all treated equally in that somebody's always going to have some problem with us we can't figure out.
Frankly, I think anyone who does think women are treated as equals needs to open their fucking eyes for once.
I want respect. I want it not to be okay for men to belittle or intimidate women, or other men who "act like women". I want it not to be okay for people to talk about "how women are" or "men are just like that". I want it not to be okay to rape, or to make excuses for rape, or to be so fucking thick and ignorant that you don't realize doing a girl who's passed out drunk is rape. And so forth. I could go on about this for a few hours. Which in fact leads back to my first point above.
No, considero que eso es alterar el orden natural de las cosas. Si te gusta alguien cambiarla a tu antojo, ya sea una cualidad o un corte de pelo es hacer que pierda su propio toque por el cual te gusto. No digo que sean inflexibles y no puedan adoptar una sugerencia, pero justamente es eso ADOPTAR una SUGERENCIA, que parta por su propia autonomia. Creo que el tener deseos de cambiar a una pareja o una persona parte del deseo de todo ser humano (Salvo unos pocos) de adquirir y detentar PODER. Y siendo esto así, la propia historia universal nos ha demostrado que el dominar, no trae consecuencias favorables para la convivencia ya sea a nivel interpersnal, como una vision más global de las naciones.
Creo que me fui muy alto. Pero realmente estoy en contra de tener el deseo tanto oculto como explicito de querer cambiar a la gente, no creo que tenga que ser reprimido tampoco, pero si superado. ¿Cómo te sentirias si tu propia pareja te dijese que quiere cambiar algo de tí? Al menos en mi caso, me sentiria pesimo.
Aprendemos y nos formamos de acuerdo a nuestras necesidades y deseos. La atraccion y lazos que se formen luego se ello, son entre personas en lineas evolutivas distintas. Compartamos, no modifiquemos a nuestro antojo.
Well, technically it was yesterday, but I missed the question. No, I do not think women are treated as equals, and I believe the inequality runs far, far deeper than most discussions seem to realize. It is most obvious in the developing world, where female infanticide, genital mutilation, and so forth are still major problems, which I think everyone on my f-list can agree is not equal by any measure. So let us restrict attention to the "developed" world, like the U.S. On the surface, you have statistics on the glass ceiling, career attainment, work-life balance, etc. One wonders, for example, why more women aren't tenured professors in the STEM fields until you realize that the "tenure clock" was originally conceived for men living in a bygone era, when they got married to a nice wife who took care of the home and babies, while he could focus on his research. Even with liberal gender roles these days, how many couples do you see where men are the primary family caretaker? How many where it's women? What are the expectations still in place? (I know my mother often says that if the household is a mess, it can all be blamed on the woman). And of course, there's cultural influences - a lot more emphasis is put on how women look, dress, their attractiveness than men. Don't even get me started on dating rituals. Or the abortion debate. Or the military. (Yes, we do benefit from not having to, say, worry about the draft. However, it's still inequality).
But like I said, this is all on the surface. People often argue that, well, women still have a choice in lots of these, and many do choose to stay at home, rather than climb that corporate ladder! This is missing the point. For the vast majority of history, women have NOT been seen as equals, and this was taken for granted by both sides. To achieve equality, we must overcome all the ingrained biases from centuries of this attitude, probably more than any other minority group. The problem is that many of the qualities traditional to women are associated with weakness - emotionalism, nurturing, empathy - while those traditional to men are glorified. This defines "maleness" and "femaleness". However, don't you think that if women were in charge for the majority of history, what is glorified would exactly be the reverse? To take an example: being a secretary used to be considered a high-skilled job, which only men could take. It was prestigious to some extent. Then, the workforce changed and the job became more the domain of women, and now just the word "secretary" conjures up images of some naughty after-work shenanigans from a B-rated porno. My point is, to truly achieve equality, we need to change the very attitudes that define feminine qualities as weak and masculine qualities as strong.
Here's a simple experiment: go to this site and run the re-gendering program on a couple of sites. Believe me, it will open your eyes.
So that brings us to a question: should women and men be treated differently in our society, based on basic biology? We have to be careful when we answer that. Yes, there are biological differences that will always exist, and they must be kept in mind when debating policy. Not even the most hard-line feminist would advocate sending a pregnant woman to the front lines alongside a healthy, middle-aged man. (Although there were some kickass women in the past who managed surprising feats while pregnant - see Caterina Sforza, for example). However, with technological innovations like birth control, those differences are not so central as they were in the past. Now, women have far more control over when they take on the physical burden of bearing a child. Similarly, in the past, man's primary concern was plowing the fields and defending his children against invaders, and to do so required raw physical strength. But nowadays, that concern is practically moot. Instead, accomplishment today is defined far more by education, intellectual ability, and social connections, where intrinsic disparities are slim to none. Taking all this into account, I believe feminist policy should push the boundaries of equality to where current technology has reduced the importance of biological differences (again, birth control and abortion are primary examples), while chipping away at the attitudes that label "women's work" and "femininity" as inferior.
You might ask why I've been thinking about this so much of late. Well, I used to care little, until I played this little text adventure, Choice of Broadsides, and chose to be a female. Rather than treat it as an afterthought, the entire setting (which is sort of set during the British colonization days) changes to reflect the reversed gender roles, with women being the pioneering sailors and men the stay-at-home marriage material. The courtship scene in particular is quite telling - when I read a flirty redhead woman, many stereotypical images immediately spring to mind, but when I read those same words and try to envision a man, my mind goes blank. Clearly, the mass media has ingrained certain archetypes in our head, associated with one gender. (Another experiment: think of a "grizzled private-eye", I bet you envisioned a man, right? Well, nothing about a gray-haired private investigator denotes either a man or a woman, but your mind is probably reaching for some old noir film).
Then, recently, I started reading fantasy again and observed how the vast majority are still set in that narrow, feudal patriarchy of a vaguely European nation, despite the fact that it's FANTASY, so anything goes. Well, in my head, I started formulating a setting where women ruled, and not just in some oddball country or because of a spunky heroine, but women always ruled based on the fact that they were born with magic, whereas men were not. (This is before I discovered Wheel of Time already did this >_<). Just following through on the evolutionary implications - for example, the division of labor would be quite different, if say women had the power of "earth" or what have you and could farm far more efficiently - led to some surprising revelations, and this post.
This post is dedicated to my mother, who while still holding on to some traditional views on gender roles, is still far more of a feminist than many women I know. I am grateful for her for bringing me up as a strong, confident woman. She tells me I inherited her stubborn attitude toward dating, so I guess I have to thank her for my Artemis spirit ^_~.
Seriously, the questions this week.....someone, probably from the Greek pantheon of gods, is having a good hard laugh at me.
My significant other is now a battered teddy bear who was bought by James at NASA in Cape Canaveral, Florida, when he was a youngster on vacation with my ex. He's a chimp?? - well, something in the ape or monkey classification, and is wearing a NASA astronaut's flight suit. He's old and battered and I hold on tight to him every night. There isn't a night I can remember, ever, when I haven't slept with a teddy bear of some description.
Space Monkey [James' name for him] was given to me by James years ago and is battered and worn. I'd make him new again, without the rips and tears, and the discolorations that teddy bears suffer after years of loving use.
And yes, this is a lot easier than talking about John.
сам доктор Гебельс бы наверное покраснел
Not a thing, not ever, and while I'm sure it'd be struggle if he was more 'flawed' I've actually gone as far as to tell him he could probably have a serious drug addiction, be morbidly obese, cheat....etc. and I'd STILL be in love with him. You're drawn to who you're drawn to. I wouldn't want him any different.
No, no, no, no. There are really too many things to say, so thehathorlegacy.com
Women are continuously being victim blamed when they get into trouble (if she only didn't wear that clothes/walk in that neighbourhood at night and for instance, how in impoverished countries where rape is rampant they tell women to not wear pants as it 'excites men', but wearing pants actually would help prevent rape, skirts and dresses provide easier access - how about men controlling their urges on their own?).
Whenever a woman does something amazing she is still judged by her looks (oh, so she wrestled him to the ground - but is she hot?).
Movies and television shows are almost all from the male point of view. (And you can say that that is 'not important, that's entertainment', but what is one of the biggest influences in our modern culture? It's communication, it's informing us how to interact with the world, it's in our children's heads, making connections).
Thinking that there is gender equality is a privileged idea. Safe in your home, yes, there is equality. If it doesn't affect you, it doesn't exist. Blind, stupid.
В среднем - полная гармония. Что либо менять не позволяет врождённое чуство прекрасного!
Нельзя ровнять мужчин и женщин - они суть разные.
В вопросе уже заложена провокация
В переводе на русский язык, фраза "с женщинами обращаются как с равными" упущено слово мужчины.
Потому что, кто ещё может общаться с женщинами?
То есть педерасты и лесбиянки?
Если так, то может стоит записать вопрос таким образом:
-Как Вы думаете, педерасты, лесбиянки и мужчины обращаются с женщинами, как с равными?
Ответ был бы прост:
-Нет, иначе бы они не были педерастами, лесбиянкаи и т.д.
I have way to many feminazi friends that I can't answer this without turning it into a joke on their part.
So instead I will sit here with my ovaries and contemplate what I am making for dinner tonight.
They cease to be what they actually are if I start trying to shape them to my expectations.
I've had enough pretenders in my life. And be advised: I will not "change" for YOU, either. Same reasons.
LOL no. We're getting there, but we've still got a huge part of the way ahead of us.
As for changes, I'd mostly like to see the inside of people's heads change. Because everything else will come with that. Stop treating people like genders, and start treating them like individuals. And yeah, making life easier for working mothers would be nice. Germans are whining about how "our people are dying out". Well, small wonder, the way you are putting obstacles in the way of those women who want to have children but also either want or need to work. This isn't the 50s any more. WAKE UP. Most households have to have two breadwinners to support themselves. So how about more daycare facilities for children over the age of 2, and less shaming of those moms who utilize them?
Well, I don't have a significant other, but if I did, I wouldn't really want to change them that much, except have them have more of the same interests as I do. I know, alot of people say oppoisites attract, which to a point is true, but when the opposites are more than similarites, do they really have an attraction? I think NOT!
It'd be nice if she could play modded minecraft and music at the same time but alas I think the unity desktop is too much of a burden (Talking about my computer because she's currently my only significant other :P)
Думаю, что равноправие в паре между мужчиной и женщиной зависит от соблюдения баланса обмена энергиями "брать - давать". Равноправие мужчины и женщины в том, что у них есть потребности в любви и в равновесии. Поэтому равноправие здесь означает, что мужчина и женщина признают, что они разные и ценят это. Мужчина и женщина одинаково нуждаются друг в друге. "Отношения в паре удаются благодаря постоянному обмену «давать — брать». Один дает — другой берет, с любовью прибавляет к полученному что-то и возвращает. Другой снова прибавляет что-то — потому что любит — и отдает обратно.
Я люблю тебя и даю тебе свою любовь, - ты отвечаешь мне взаимностью и даешь чуть больше, я снова отвечаю тебе. и даю чуть больше.) И так прирастает любовь)
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My husband is great at fixing, organizing, forecasting. I don't worry nearly as much as I used to- I know he's taking care of things. The man is a planner of the highest order. He tracks the minutiae of life in spreadsheets; he has a systematic way of dealing with laundry; he even wears a spare car key and house key around his neck, because a decade ago he locked himself out of the car in a snowstorm.
There is an Achilles heel in all of this. He is incapable of winging it. He likes to have a plan made in advance, and perform items 1, 2, 3, etc, in order. When a plan doesn't pan out, he gets upset. I hate seeing him upset.
Frequently, this is due to me, at least indirectly. Introducing a tween girl, two insane kittens and my own special swirl of chaos and drama into his life is a tall order. This man lives for knowing which way the wind is going to blow. If he didn't have this innate sense of order, of rightness, I don't think he would be himself. He wouldn't be the man that I treasure.
So, ultimately, no, I wouldn't want him to change. I wouldn't risk altering the person he is. I'll just continue to be there to help him come up with plan B.
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The number of digits in his bank account?
Nope, not a thing. I'd change things about his situation if I could, but not about him. He'd change the same things about his situation if he could too.
If there was anything that I wanted to change I would just dump him and find someone who fit my ideal. If I wanted a dog, I wouldn't get a cat and teach it to bark - I'd just get a dog.
С женщинами нужно просто вести себя достойно не навязываясь к ним, но быть всегда готовым к настоящим поступкам. Тогда мы будем больше нравиться им! А равенство давно было узаконено, просто кто-то пользуется этим, а кто-то не хочет.
And to the people that would like to change something about their relationships and posted it here: if it's a bad thing, talk to your significant other about it, there's nothing worse than letting them continue doing something adverse and not having you tell them it's an issue or helping them fix it. Trust me!